Fair is not fair

By Matt Vidovich

FAIRFair is a non-profit organization dedicated to provide well-documented answers to criticisms of LDS doctrine, belief and practice.(1) Although their claims seem well balanced and flawless to the untrained reader, Fair has done a fantastic job of dodging the bullet. Philosophical fallacies being made in many of their arguments, but one stood much higher above the rest.

In an article called “Answers to 50 Anti-Mormon Questions” Fair tries to answer this question: “Since the time when Brigham Young taught that both the moon and the sun were inhabited by people, has the Mormon church ever found scientific evidence of that to be true? (Journal of Discourses )1870), 13:271)”

Fair answers: “Brigham and others were most likely repeating what had been told to them by the science of the day.” Fair continues: “Lots of Biblical prophets talked about the earth being flat, the sky being a dome, etc. – it is inconsistent for conservative Protestants to complain that a false belief about the physical world shared by others in their culture condemns Brigham and Joseph, but does not condemn Bible prophets.”

Has Fair really answered the question or simply thrown mud at those who threaten the validity of their early prophets? The question asks if the church has found any scientific evidence and the answer is virtually invisible. If they were truly prophets of God, wouldn’t they be discerning of the truth rather then following common beliefs of the day? As Fair attempts  to mirror a fault found in Brigham Young and Joseph Smith with faults they perceive in the Bible, they fail to give any specific Bible verses that talk about the earth being “flat.” Through personal research the only verses in the New King James Bible that contain the word “flat” are Leviticus 21:18, Numbers 22:31, Joshua 6:5 and  Joshua 6:20 — none of them refer to the earth. Fair could be referring to the numerous verses that say “four corners of the earth” or “ends of the earth.” (2)

With a greater understanding of Hebrew this “problem” may resolve itself. In the phrase “four corners of the earth,” the word “corner” is the Hebrew word “kanaph.” Kanaph means extremity. ” It is translated “borders” in Numbers 15:38. In Ezekiel 7:2 it is translated as “four corners” and again in Isaiah 11:12 as “four corners.” Job 37:3 and 38:13 as “ends.”

“The Greek equivalent in Revelation 7:1 is “gonia.” The Greek meaning is perhaps more closely related to our modern divisions known as quadrants. Gonia literally means angles, or divisions. It is customary to divide a map into quadrants as shown by the four directions.” (3)

So does the Bible actually teach that the earth is flat? A Spherical shaped earth is described in Isaiah 40:22 “the circle of the earth.” Not only has Fair blatantly misinformed readers about verses in the bible but has ignored important ones such as Isaiah 40:22.

So is Fair being fair about the information they provide? Have they provided “well-documented answers” as they so boldly claim? Or have they ignored important facts and details while highlighting their own ideas and biases?  Have they attempted to bypass the question altogether by shifting the focus to the Bible?

(1) www.Fairlds.org

(2) Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11, Matthew 4:8.

(3) http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c017.html

The Culture Surrounding Smith

By Matt Vidovich

By taking a glance at Joseph Smith Jr.’s genealogical history we can find much religious confusion, showing  an aura of faiths, superstitions, and philosophical ideas. Asael Smith, Joseph’s Grandfather was a Christian Universalist, with his unorthodox ideas, and relativistic train of thought he passed down a belief void of any spiritual significance. In a letter written to his children he writes, “I would not wish to point any particular form to you; but first I would you to search the Scriptures and consult sound reason…” (1) Solomon Mack, Joseph’s maternal grandfather, was converted to “Christianity” much later in his life. After his conversion Solomon wrote a book called “A Narrative of the Life of Solomon Mack.” In this he speaks about his visions and voices he had been hearing, these were the events leading up to his conversion. Smith’s Uncle, Jason Mack was a “seer” and started his own religious quasi-communistic society, leading thirty families, directing them economically and spiritually. (2) Along with Joseph’s rich folk-religious genealogy we discover both Joseph Sr. and Lucy having several accounts of visions. Some would say that this is the perfect recipe for disaster.

Joseph Smith Jr. was a natural born leader and many recognized his talent for having a very creative imagination from a very early age. As Joseph’s family moved from town to town, due to their financial instability the Smith’s found themselves in Palmyra, New York, in the heart of the “Burned-Over District” and only miles from the epicenter of the Second Great Awakening. (3) The term “Burned-Over” comes from the idea that this area was so heavily evangelized to that there was no “fuel” left to “burn.” Religious revival and debate was so thick in the air in Palmyra, where young Joseph would find himself engaged in the hype.

At this same time numerous farmers and towns people were confused about oddly shaped mounds they had been finding on their farms, fields, and properties. Farmers all over were trying to explain these mounds and their origin. What they didn’t know is that these mounds were burial and ceremonial structures formed by early Native Americans. Farmers who were unhappy with their virtually useless rocky land began fantasizing about buried treasure found in these mounds that would compensate them for their losses due to the lack of crops. This trend grew quickly and farmers where buying into this get-rich-quick idea, so much so that they were willing to use supernatural powers to find riches. Both upset with their rocky farm, Joseph Sr. and Joseph Jr. were not an exception to the treasure digging craze. A Palmyra Newspaper in 1821 reported that diggers on the Erie Canal had unearthed “several brass plates” along with skeletons and fragments of pottery.” (4) This being several years before Joseph’s claim of unearthing plates. Some local Newspapers were circulating the idea that these were pyramids of the Americas and that those buried in them were Egyptian, or of Jewish decent. This would explain Joseph’s interest in “translating” the Book of Abraham, and the Book of Mormon. One record claimed to be written in “Reformed Egyptian” and the other written in Hebrew.

A brew of religious perplexity among ancestry, society and self, Smith sot to answer not only those questions, but also the questions of the Mound Builders. Smith is known most for influencing the culture around him, but it could be said that the culture really influenced him. “For the book [of Mormon] can best be explained, not by Joseph’s ignorance nor by his delusions, but by his responsiveness to the provincial opinions of his time.” – Fawn M. Brodie (5)

(1) This letter was dated April 10, 1799 See Topsfield  Historical Society Colections, Vol. 8 pp. 92-4.

(2) Lucy Smith: Biography Sketches of Joseph Smith the Prophet and His Progenitors for Many Generations (Livingpool, England, 1853), pp. 21,52.

(3) “The Enduring Vision” 6th Edition Vol. 1 Boyer, Clark, Kett, Salisbury, Sitkoff, Woloch. p. 309

(4) Fawn M. Brodie “No Man Knows My History” the life of Joseph Smith p. 35

(5) Fawn M. Brodie “No Man Knows My History” the life of Joseph Smith p. 69

DNA and the Mormon Chruch

By Matt Vidovich

DNA has been telling truths for as long as we have known about it. Proving or disproving DNA can tell us loads of useful information, but it is up to us whether we decide to believe it or not. Many faiths have followers so imbedded in their doctrine that scientific proof comes second in line to their deity.

Joseph Smith the founder and prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints, or better known as Mormons, was either a victim of the second great awakening culture he was raised in, or he was who he claimed to be; a prophet of God. Joseph Smith jr. was raised into a poor family that moved from place to place looking for stability and a better income. The smiths were known for practicing “folk religion” and often times “warned out” of small towns and communities. Both of Joseph’s parents had numerous visions and prophecies through out their live time. Perhaps the most noted was Joseph Smith Sr. having a series of seven visions starting at the time when Joseph jr. was 5 up to the age of 14. These visions started after there move to Palmyra, New York. Coincidentally Palmyra was only a few miles away from the epicenter of the Second great awakening, in Rochester, New York.

As the story goes Joseph Smith jr. at the young age of 14 had a vision of God and Jesus Christ telling him that none of the churches were true, in fact all of their creeds were a “complete abomination in the sight of the Lord.” Joseph later was visited by an angel named Moroni, who told Joseph where golden plates were buried. These golden plates contained ancient writings of the people who lived in the Americas. In 1827 Joseph dug up the plates, and in 1830 the first copy of the Book of Mormon was printed. Thus the beginning of Mormonism.

In the book of Mormon there are stories of Israelites coming to the Americas. The stories tell of tens of thousands of warriors and thousands of people who were divided into two main societies. The Nephites and the Lamenites. The story of good verses evil is told through out the book. Nephites (the good) were killed off by the Lamenites (the bad), and to this day every Mormon sect weather main stream LDS or small polygamous groups believe in the story told in the book of Mormon.

An article found in USA Today, entitled “DNA research and Mormon scholars changing basic beliefs” tells of a problem that threatens the beliefs of many Mormon followers. Patty Henetz the author tells the story of a Mormon bishop from Brisbane, Australia who made a shocking discovery. Through scientific testing and research, DNA showed that the beloved story of the Nephites and Lamenites could not be the case. In fact DNA showed that those living in the Americas were those of Siberian and Asian decent. Author also points out that no archeological find for these groups have ever been found. These staggering stats create an obvious problem for the Church, and those who wish to defend it.

This discovery is causing many to go back in time and evaluate the very claim of Mormonism, and the very character of Joseph Smith. Has DNA put the faith of 13 million in jeopardy, or has it only strengthened it? After researching Mormonism for the past two years I have found this information to be consistent and detrimental to the Mormon faith. Latter-day saints everywhere should critically analyze articles like this, and ask themselves how many more discoveries will it take for me to conclude that Mormonism is only a reality in the mind of Joseph Smith.

How can Truth be an Abomination?

-By Matt Vidovich

If you are not familiar to the many cracks that lay on the basic foundation of Mormonism, then this may come as a surprise to you. For the past two years, my research on Mormonism has left me only more confused about basic understanding on LDS doctrine. As the list of questions get longer, the list of answers fade away. Through my numerous conversations with LDS believers, missionaries, bishops, and even stake presidents, one claim rang loud in my ears that could not be ignored. “Many Churches and other religions have Truth, but our Church contains the fullness. ALL truth.” Mormons everywhere love to boast that the LDS Church does not criticize others, this includes any type of religion, or view of God. Even Mormon Publication contain ridiculous euphemisms that soften even their own doctrine.

(1) “Because the Church was no longer led by priesthood authority and revelation, error crept into Church teachings.  Good people and much truth remained, but the gospel as established by Jesus Christ was lost, resulting in a period called the Great Apostasy.” http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/the-restoration-of-truth/the-great-apostasy

“Much truth remained.” Not a small amount of truth but “much truth.”

(2)“We have come not to take away from you the truth and virtue you possess. We have come not to find fault with you nor to criticize you. We have not come here to berate you. … Keep all the good that you have, and let us bring to you more good.” President George Albert Smith, quoted in Sharing the Gospel with Others, comp. Preston Nibley (Salt Lake City: Deseret News Press, 1948), 12-13; italics added.

Virtue you posses? Where does the Bible affirm that we posses virtue? Keep all the good that you have? What good are we with out Christ? “Keep all the good that you have, and let us bring you more good.” This sounds like the motto of Masonry, “Making good men better.” Do you begin to see how the LDS church covers it’s embarrassing doctrine to fit the politically correct world around it.

They also project this pattern that “Good People” have some truth, and some is better then none.  This idea “you’re not wrong, you’re just not right.” is pushed by the church, and is completely contrary to their own doctrine.  A prime example of this is found in the Book of Mormon:

And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth” (1 Nephi 14:10).

This verse in 1 Nephi gives readers a clear cut, black and white illustration of who is and who isn’t true followers of Christ according to LDS doctrine. In v.17 it tells us that if we are not a part of the true church, then our “Foundation is the devil.” The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has a politically correct, postmodern way of presenting itself. It sidesteps the core of the issue and avoids any deep theological discussion, so as not to offend anyone.

Same statements have been made by the Church’s founding fathers. Brigham Young, John Taylor, James Talmage, Bruce McConkie, Joseph Fielding Smith, and of course Joseph Smith Jr.  Smith once said, “My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt . . .” (Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 1, p. 5-6).

By cushioning the blow, the LDS church fails to be honest about their own doctrine. In closing I ask, how can any truth be an Abomination?

Witnessing To The Latter-Day Saints: My Time in Utah

 

            Well, I’ve been asked by several people to write a blog about my time in Utah, so here it is! We left on Saturday, July 11th on a plane from DFW Airport headed for Salt Lake City. One thing I noticed about airlines since the last time I flew…it costs a whopping $15 to check your first bag! That part wasn’t fun. And you’re not allowed to bring any liquids onto the plane that are over 3 ounces…which forced me to check my bag. Grrrr. Anyways, on the plane, I couldn’t help but wonder if the lady that I sat next to was Mormon. She noticed me listening to Hillsong on my iPod, and told me she loves them, and that she was going to see them in concert later this year. We got into a conversation, and I found out that she was actually not LDS (Latter Day Saint). I told her we were on a mission trip, and she thought that it was cool and wished me luck. We arrived in Utah, and met two ladies at our baggage pickup – Miranda Garrison and Bethany. Miranda was on a solo mission trip from Alabama, whereas Bethany was one of the actual missionaries in Utah. We went and got our rental car, then drove out to where we were staying in Ogden. We stayed at a place dubbed “The Blue House”, which is right across the street from Weber State University. We ate some pizza, sang some praise and worship, and then that was about it for that night. The next day was Sunday, and we all got the chance to attend the first service of a local Protestant church that was being planted called “The Peak”. It was held in someone’s backyard, and they had free food, so I was happy. Ha. We then went to a Mormon Ward at 1 pm, which is what a local Mormon church is called.
                  As soon as we walked through the doors, I felt an evil presence come across me. There were two head statues in the front of the building, one of Joseph Smith, and one of Jesus. It was just downright creepy. I saw a guy walking through the hallway, and asked him where we all needed to go, and he lead us to a Sunday school class. Yes, we all attended a Mormon sunday school class. It was rather funny, because with us, about 1/3 of the class was Protestant. We ended up watching a video on Joseph Smith and the spreading of the gospel around the world. We then went to something called a “Sacrament Service”, and listened to several speakers and watched as they did communion (we didn’t take part of course). One thing I noticed about the speakers, is they kept hammering the fact that all of us were so valuable….our lives are very valuable. It made me think of Acts 20:24, which says, “But I do not consider my life of any account as dear to myself, so that I may finish my course and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify solemnly of the gospel of the grace of God.” Anyways, after the service, we invited several congregants back to The Blue House for dinner. None of the people from the college age singles Ward came, but a couple that Jessica, Melissa, and Miranda G. invited ended up coming. It was awesome! Their names were Tony and Anna. We all got into a very good conversation with them as we ate. I originally wasn’t feeling good, and didn’t talk to them much at first….I actually had to go lay down on the couch for a while. I soon realized that I was missing why I was here…and that was to share the true Gospel with these people. So I said a quick prayer, sucked it up, got a bottled water, and went out and talked to them. I got to bring up quite a few points, such as being saved by grace through faith alone, and not of works. I shared a lot of important verses with them, and they seemed to listen with an open heart. The next day we actually received a note from that couple on our door telling us how much they enjoyed talking to us. They said it was very spiritually enriching, and that they were going to start reading their Bible more. It was a real blessing to all of us! We ended up going to the local Temple and Tabernacle in Ogden that day, where we once again got into a very deep conversation with two Mormon missionaries, that were actually from Texas! One guy was from Allen, and another from Beumont. I talked for about 20 minutes with them, doing nothing but sharing the truth with them. They ended up giving me a Book of Mormon, I took it and said thanks, and then took it home and began highlighting verses to help me with witnessing throughout the rest of the week. (Surprisingly, a lot of strange Mormon doctrine can be refuted with the Book of Mormon). Later in the week, we went to the Temple Square in Salt Lake City, and the 12 of us split up in to teams of 3. On my team it was Raechel, Caity, and me. I think we had a good team, even though Raechel had to remind me to let them talk too (I have a bad habit of monopolizing conversations at times…) But anyways, we first toured the Conference center, which has 22,000 seats….bigger than an NBA arena. Our tour guide was extremely nice, as was this man and his son that I met named Matt and Brady. They told me a lot of what they knew about all the paintings and stuff that we looked at, and then, at the end of the tour, I got the chance to witness to the two of them. I talked a lot about how the Bible doesn’t tell us to pray over the truth of a prophet so that God can reveal that he is a true prophet, but rather to examine what he says to see if it stacks up against the rest of the Bible and if what he says actually comes true. After that, we went to the Church History Museum, where we got into a really good conversation with a young guy named Tye. He was fun to talk to, because everytime he would give his own opinion on something, he would throw his tie over his shoulder to indicate that it was his opinion, and not the LDS Church’s. We talked for about an hour, and got into some very deep issues. After that, we all ate, then Raechel, Caity, Miranda, and I went and saw a movie on the Temple grounds called “Joseph Smith: Prophet of the Restoration”. It was very much propaganda, and extremely inaccurate. The man had about 33 wives, and only 1 was depicted in the movie. When he was killed by an angry mob, they left out the fact that he shot two people before being killed himself. He just took the bullets like a saint. I can remember after the movie ended just having a sense of outrage build up inside of me. There are just so many people that are deceived by this! I could really tell the Holy Spirit inside of me being offended. The outrage quickly turned to compassion though, as I saw that there were many people crying. They don’t know they’re in a cult. It’s our job to give them the truth! It just motivated me all the more to witness to these people. Later, we got the chance to attend a seminary class at the Institute of Religion at Weber State (they allow visitors). We went and sat in the class, and no one even noticed that we were visitors, much less LDS. At the beginning of class, the professor writes names up on the board of who was going to give an opening prayer, what Hymn they were going to sing, who would read the thought of the day from the scriptures, and who would close the class in prayer. I raised my hand when it got to the thought of the day. The professor wrote my name up on the board, and I was good to go. I actually chose to read a verse from the Book of Mormon – Alma 11:26-29: “And Zeezrom said unto him: Thou sayest there is a true and living God? And Amulek said: Yea, there is a true and living God. Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No.” Now, anyone who knows anything about the Mormons knows that they believe that our God is only God of our universe. They believe there are other gods out there somewhere that govern over their own universe. Apparently, the Book of Mormon goes against their own beliefs. It actually sparked a rather interesting discussion in class. Later on, the professor gave us copies of the page of the book to cover different topics of so that we could compare LDS theology to something called Zoroastrianism, or something like that. I got the topic of marriage, BINGO! I knew God wanted me to bring up Mormons and their polygamy, primarily that of Joseph Smith. And as far as what ended up happening…let’s just say the professor raised his voice at me, very angrily, when I said, “But didn’t Joseph Smith have anywhere from 27-33 wives? And didn’t he actually deny that he had even more than one at all during his lifetime to the public?” He did, LDS historians confirm this, but the Professor dodge my accusation by saying that, “No, Joseph did not commit adultery!” Then he went on a big tangent trying to justify him, all in a very harsh, angry tone. One other Mormon student added, “Man, you sound like you’re going to fight somebody!” and the professor said, “Well, I take these things very seriously when someone accuses a prophet of God of adultery. I don’t know why we even spent this much time on this topic, but I guess we needed to for someone in here.” I ended up going up to the professor later and explaining that I wasn’t accusing Joseph of adultery, but that he denied that he had plural wives to the public, and only told the people “who could bear it” about his plural wives. That next morning, we all tried to attend another class, but we were stopped by the Director of the school, Steven Page, and the assistant director, Raymond Kelley. They very cunningly took us into the conference room, and very nicely said if we had any questions about the institution, that they’d be happy to answer them. I didn’t feel like talking at this point. I was angry that we weren’t going to get to attend a class, and on top of that, I’m not really much of a talker during the mornings, so I just sat there in my chair as the rest of the class asked general questions about the school. Then, something cool happened. A door opened up…Miranda Garrison said something, which brought the men to say, “If you have any theology type questions, we’d be happy to answer”. I instantly had a total change in attitude. I suddenly felt as though I had a million things to say, and where I should start first. I really felt God’s presence behind me, because I ended up talking to those men for the next two hours, giving them my own testimony, and sharing the Gospel with them. Every point they made, I had the perfect thing to say back. Verses that I had memorized when I was younger, all of the sudden popping back into my head. It was amazing! There was really no way I could’ve said the things I said if it had not been for God being behind me, giving me the wisdom of what to say. The rest of the week was fun too, we helped out at a Christian School Vacation Bible School, a Christian camp (we planted some trees, as you can see in the pictures), and then we also went white water rafting through the mountains. A lot of people have asked me why we bother with the mormons….they’re so set in their ways, there’s no way they could change. Well, I would like to totally disagree with you. On the plane ride back, I listened to an awesome sermon called “Being What you Are: Having too Low a View of Regeneration”. It really reminded me of our part in Evangelism. There is absolutely NOTHING we can do to manipulate someone or convince them to repent and believe the Gospel. Men are totally depraved, they love their sin, and do not want to come to God. It is only by the grace of God that men can be regenerated by the Holy Spirit to become dead to sin, and to become slaves of righteousness, as described in Romans 6. We are like the prophet Ezekiel, standing before a valley of dead, dry bones. God tells us to speak to the bones, and to tell them to stand up and become a man. No matter how hard we try, there’s no way we can do that ourselves. We could be standing there yelling until we completely lose our voice, and they would still be dry, dead bones. It is only by the POWER OF ALMIGHTY GOD that he commands those bones to stand up, and become men. We only need to be obedient in fulfilling the great commission….not because we are able to manipulate people to believe, but so that God himself can extend His kingdom, by the power of His own grace, and His own grace alone. I’m telling you this my friends, if it’s God’s will, he can break even the most stone-hearted Mormon into believing the truth. Just look at the Apostle Paul….he was killing Christians! It wasn’t until one day, when he was knocked off his horse by Jesus himself!! That’s the Sovereign power of our God folks! He is MIGHTY TO SAVE! -Brad